And I hath returned
August 25th, 2010 by Gavok | Tags: deadpoolComputer’s back, I’m rested and I’m ready to go back to writing.
Since I’ve been internetually neutered for the past several days, here are things I’ve spent my spare time on:
– Watched the first half of Season 4 of the Wire. God, what a show. I really need to finish it over the next week.
– Started on Hickman’s Fantastic Four already. Key word is started. I read the Dark Reign miniseries. That’s something, at least.
– Read all of Scott Pilgrim, saw the movie and downloaded the game for Xbox. Fun shit all around.
– Read through the trade Dark Reign: The Underside, which features Lethal Legion, Zodiac, Mr. Negative and the one-shot Made Men. I remember initially picking it up because I heard some good things about Joe Casey’s Zodiac and it was definitely an interesting read. It gave me a notion that I ran through Twitter that got two reactions. cyberpilate retweeted it, which I take as an endorsement. It basically made Chad Nevett vomit a little in his mouth, which I take as the opposite of an endorsement. I figure it’s worth mentioning here at the very least.
So Zodiac is about Zodiac, who at this point can best be described as Marvel’s attempt at a Joker. While we do see his rather normal-looking face under his black hood, we know absolutely nothing about his background. He’s a murderous nutjob who loves him some chaos and revels in everything criminal. He’s violent, charismatic and one step ahead of everyone. With Osborn in charge of everything, Zodiac takes offense and uses his resources to strike against him. He comes out of the story completely unscathed and undiscovered, which works because as long as Osborn is the antagonist, you can still accept Zodiac as a twisted protagonist.
But what now? He just appeared in a two-page scene in Age of Heroes for no reason but to remind everyone that he’s still a concept in hopes that he doesn’t fade into obscurity. He makes mention that he’s going to challenge the Heroic Age, but is that really going to work? Can his stories work in the same ballpark when he’s after someone like Steve Rogers? I get the bad feeling that he’d go in the direction of Prometheus. He’d be worth one good storyline, then get nerfed and gummed up by every other writer.
One of the biggest complaints I’ve had about Deadpool for the past few years has been that he has no rogues. T-Ray has become worthless. Ajax existed to be killed. Black Swan was more of a plot device for the sake of giving us Agent X. Everyone else he fights is either borrowed from another hero or is going to be dead by the end of the story arc. The latest issue of his core series seems to be building towards giving him some kind of big bad (possibly the man responsible for his cancer), but who knows how that’ll turn out.
What I’m trying to say here is that Deadpool vs. Zodiac should be a thing. They should be archenemies. I think there’s a lot of potential in that pairing. Deadpool is a middle-of-the-road guy who doesn’t know whether he should be acting heroically or killing the person next to him at any given moment. Zodiac is ultimately Deadpool without any redeeming human qualities. In comparison, he makes Wade look like Spider-Man. It’s Venom/Carnage, but with mind games attached. Deadpool does heroic stuff on the down-low all the time and never gets recognized for it. Zodiac does horrific stuff on the down-low and goes out of his way not to be recognized for it. They could do a whole series of stories clashing against each other without the larger Marvel Universe having any idea what kind of secret w– …set of battles is going on. All while Zodiac tries to get Deadpool on his payroll.
A good villain is someone who could make the hero examine himself more clearly and in this case, this is what Zodiac could be made for.
What do you guys think?
I think that it would defeat the purpose of Deadpool if he were to have his own rogues gallery. Kind of the point of him is that he’s an in-universe commentary on all of the other comics, characters and stories.
Deadpool is a comic for people who already read or have read a lot of Marvel Comics.
by darrylayo August 26th, 2010 at 10:09 --replyOff-topic: When will we see the next “We Care a Lot”?
by Two-Bit Specialist August 26th, 2010 at 10:45 --replyGood question. I was intent on waiting for Grim Hunt, since Anti-Venom appeared on the cover for the preview issue and Eddie Brock appeared in the Deadpool issue of ASM in a way that really suggested he’d have a role in the story. That went bust. Now I’m just going to wait on that Brand New Day finale arc. Whether he’s in there or not, I’m going to finally get around to writing the next installment.
by Gavok August 26th, 2010 at 11:14 --replyWell you know my hatred of Way, and while I admit he *touched* on something resembling an emotion in Deadpool #15, given his style of writing (In Wolverine, Deadpool, Wolverine Origins, and pretty much anything else he’s done) I really don’t think he has it in him to do something completely serious or set a standard.
To make a good arch-nemesis there has to be some emotional involvement, more than likely hatred or some form of it, or jealousy/etc, something along those lines.
But really, given Way’s record, and style, he’s more than likely going to focus on the emotional development of Deadpool. He’s a good ol’ boy from Georgia and wants to focus on ‘having fun’.
But if a skilled writer were to take over I’d put my money on Typhoid Mary. After her last stint as a ‘hero’ as Mutant Zero or whatever it was for the Initiative, she’s been the hero herself (at least one of her personalities) something she always wanted to turn Deadpool off on. It’d be an interesting dynamic.
by Capo Del Bandito August 26th, 2010 at 14:29 --replyWait, you mean there was a point to the latest issue of Deadpool? Huh.
(I’ve tolerated and even enjoyed Way’s work on ‘pool, but ever since he went to Vegas… Bleh.)
by clay August 26th, 2010 at 18:21 --replyThe only Zodiac in Marvel should be dudes dressed like rams and fishes.
by Rob August 26th, 2010 at 19:21 --reply@clay: I completely agree, but I do figure there has to be some point with that issue. The fact that Ghost Rider only wanted Deadpool to see his past and not be punished makes me think that Ghost Rider’s true target is the guy with no name who shows up in Deadpool’s memories.
There appears to be something really sinister going on with that guy and I can’t shake the feeling that Wade Wilson becoming Deadpool was that guy’s plan from the beginning. Maybe Wade was involved with that guy losing his arm (compare how he looks between his two scenes) and maybe the guy is the very reason why Wade contracted cancer in the first place (originally this was going to be Blind Al’s deal during Kelly’s run, but he never got around to it).
Or maybe it won’t lead to anything. Considering how Way’s been lately, it’s not unlikely either.
by Gavok August 26th, 2010 at 20:31 --replyDeadpool 26 was one of the worst written comics I’ve seen. Just structurally, there’s no power. Nothing happens. And nobody cares about Deadpool’s sad, sad past.
by darrylayo August 27th, 2010 at 07:18 --replyIf Way attempts to do anything permanent to Deadpool’s already convoluted origin, I will make it a point to find Way and punch him in the soul.
by Capo Del Bandito August 27th, 2010 at 14:27 --replySeason 4 of The Wire is heartbreakingly good, isn’t it?
by Trilobite August 27th, 2010 at 16:21 --replyDaniel Way thought the best way to beat Romulus, the most powerful enemy Wolverine has ever faced, with seemingly infinite resources, was to dump him in the Darkforce Dimension, a plot device that couldn’t hold Silvermane.
I weep for the future of Deadpool, if Way doesn’t get out of his tailspin.
by Dan Coyle August 27th, 2010 at 18:37 --reply@rob
Ditto. And where exactly *has* the Zodiac been, anyway? :raise:
by Evil Abraham Lincoln August 30th, 2010 at 16:22 --reply@Evil Abraham Lincoln: Dead, the better Zodiac cut off all their heads when he took the name.
by david brothers August 30th, 2010 at 16:38 --reply